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Pioneer PRO 111FD - 50" Elite KURO plasma TV with built-in network media player - widescreen - 1080p (FullHD) - HDTV
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Height: 28.5 inches
Width: 56.7 inches
Weight: 96.00 pounds
Model: 111FD
Manufacturer: Pioneer
Color: Black
Display Size: 50 inches
Model SKU: B001CE06GQ
It doesn't get any better than this!
by Mark A. Dillard
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2010-02-25
Just received my PIONEER Pro-111FD TV/Monitor on Feb. 12th, 2010. The first thing I have to say is WOW! what a phenomenal detailed, colorful and accurate picture. Blackest blacks, most colorful colors, & super fine detail. The features are mind blowing too!
I have been following the Kuro line since the day it was announced as being introduced to the market. I read, dreamed & drooled over what I saw and read. One thing that floored me was the prices! They were astronomical. I knew PIONEER was getting things right from the information I gathered over the years but those prices singled me out as a potential buyer. After reading & wanting one for many years, I sort of forgot about them or owning one due to lack of funds for a few years. Then just this year I reached a point I could afford one and was hoping I could find one available either new or stightly used.
Was able to procure one at the small price of $1800 a new showroom display model with full warranty.
For the last three years I was using a really old PIONEER V402 4:3 Full Screen monitor for all my viewing purposes.
Were talking around second generation plasma here! I bought it used for $400 and surely got my money out of it for what it is, and was my first introduction to owning a plasma. The original price of that commercial version was $15,000 and was only capable of 480p at best.
I went from that to the Pro-111 so the difference was night & day to say the least.
Even Laserdisc & VHS viewing is great on this thing although nowhere near DVD @1080p they still look better than older CRT's. But of course DVD 1080p is where it's at on this set. I don't care for TV so I don't view HDTV, but thats all been covered here for the most part.
I have been everywhere I could think of over the years viewing, comparing TV's & monitors wanting to get the best bang for my buck. Talking with knowledgeable sales reps when they could be found as if I was going to buy that day, viewing instore sets displaying, HDTV, DVD, BluRay, Xbox, PS3, etc.. to educate myself on what I really wanted in a monitor. Not just settle for some descent set that could display my video sources in a mediocre fashion.
I am glad I held out over the years, for what I really wanted, it was worth it. I got a bargain price and like many have stated on the web there is nothing out to date that can top the last PIONEER plasmas.
Although they may be toppled from their throne someday I WON'T be running out to purchase the newest set boasting better blacks & picture over the PIONEER's.
This is the first for me running 1080p DVD movies & Xbox 360 personally, before only viewing it in stores or other people's homes. Next its going to be BluRay!
Everytime I turn on this set it just knocks me out just how great the picture can be.
Xbox 360 games are just phenomenal!
It's still in the break-in period and I am running various programs suited for plasma break-in so it's only going ot get better!
Everyone has been sucked into the marketing machine by many manufactures & stores namely Sony and Walmart that you can get a great 720p LCD for under $700 or a 1080i for around $900. Although this may be somewhat true PIONEER plasmas will knock them out of the ballpark everytime. Sadly many have abandoned the plasma market in favor of LCD because they sell like hotcakes.
I have been convinced that plasma was the way to go since day one but always tryed to give LCD an unbiased chance.
LCD in my opinion is an epic failure compared to the likes of PIONEER's last 9th gen. plasmas. Of course everyone is going to have their own personal tastes in what they are looking for in a displays picture.
Its really disappointing that PIONEER bailed from plasma production. Just as they were at the head of the class and were only going to get better at what they do, sad indeed!
You will do yourself a big favor if you do some research, if you want the best and can find a Pro-111 50" or a Pro-151 60" get one while you can! You won't regret it. Prices are getting really reasonable but availablity may get scarce after awhile since PIONEER no longer makes these.
I won't go into the specs as they are well listed here.
You just have to see one for yourself to really get the full impact of what everyone is writing about these.
Otherwise you fall prey to the marketing machine and Walmart's LCD for $500 on Black Friday are just as good, NOT EVEN CLOSE!
Most people I talk to have no clue what a Kuro is, they just turn their head sideways like a dog hearing a strange sound. They just don't know how PIONEER ruled the plasma market for a time.
Bottom line as it always has been, 'You get what you pay for!'
Kuro Lives!
Best TV available still
by Michael D. Perlo
from New York, NY USA,
2009-05-03
I recently upgraded from a Samsung 61" LED DLP which wasn't too shabby. I spent a good 3 or 4 months crawling around various electronic stores in Manhattan comparing models and was finally able to hunt down a Pioneer Elite Kuro PRO-111FD at an insanely low price ($2499). I've spent a little over a week with the TV and have to say that it really lives up to all the lofty praise it has received over the past year. The blacks, in a single word, are stunning and the colors are equally impressive. Last weekend I fired up my PS3 and watched the Criterion Collection version of Chung King Express and was blown away by the clarity and color depth. HDTV, especially programs broadcast in 1080i, are also excellent. I have mixed opinions about SD content on the TV (sometimes it looks great, other times not at all) but I can't offer an objective opinion because my AVR (Pioneer Elite SC-05) handles the processing and upconversion for those signals.
I still have a lot to explore (namely the 24p 72hz film mode) but can safely say that this is the best TV on the market. But keep in mind that there are plenty of other options that are just as drool-worthy. Namely the LED backlit Samsungs (A950 series) and the Sony XBR8s. And in terms of aesthetics, the new LED edge-lit Samsungs are beyond chic...you deserve to see how slim they are in person. The new Panasonic G10s also look great and couldn't have a more seductive price. It truly is a great time to be a TV buyer.
Awesome TV
by Funkster
from Santa Clara, CA United States,
2009-04-22
Have had this TV for a few weeks now. I researched the entire Samsung LCD and Plasma line, looked at the XBRs from Sony and some of the higher end Panasonic plasmas.
I used 12 criteria to evaluate each of the 16 TVs I looked at.
Kuro Elite was best in class in every category except for vibrancy and SD picture blur reduction. LCDs are clearly more vibrant. If you are looking for a picture that immediately jumps out at you and demands your attention, you're unlikely to find it in this TV. I much prefer realistic looking scenes (I'm also a photographer), so it's very important to me to have an image that is a reproduction of the original with the least amount of alteration. That is indeed exactly what the Elite delivers. The Samsungs have some post-processing that allow you to reduce the blur/hard-edges on a SD (standard defn.) source. Since I watch mainly Bluray, do HD gaming and cable, this isn't important to me.
The Elite won out in all the other 10 criteria (I did not evaluate native sound, since I use external surround sound).
So if you want completely realistic video/images with incredible crispness and black levels that you don't even notice after a while, because they are so darn good, this is the perfect TV for you!
Elite or nothing
by Richard Shanahan
from raleigh, ncI United States,
2009-04-11
Owned for a year now and haven't seen any plasma come close under 10k. If your debating with any other plasma stop looking cause this one is amazing!
Great TV, I Own A Watch
by Don C. Waddell
from Fresno, CA USA,
2009-04-01
This is hands down the best picture I have ever seen. I was somewhat hesitant about buying this product as Pioneer is no longer going to be making them, as I understand it. But after all the research and the price coming down to $2,800 I had to go for it. I love the picture. A negative reviewer wrote about bars on the side, mine automatically scales a 4:3 to 16:9 and it looks pretty good. Sure, when all broadcasts go to the wider format it will be even better but there are a lot more widescreen HD channels now. By the by, this TV is incredible coupled with a Blue Ray player. I bought a basic Sony stand alone and everything looks fantastic. I'm glad I took the plunge. As for the reviewer who didn't like the clock, my advice is to buy a watch and enjoy the TV.
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